# Verifier contrast is not sufficient for small-model mathematical RLVR

## Problem and contribution

Reinforcement learning from verifiable rewards (RLVR) gives a language model a
binary signal for an exact mathematical answer. A common group-normalized
policy-gradient update has no gradient when all sampled answers in a group are
correct or all are incorrect. I study whether making verifier contrast more
available is enough to improve learning in the supplied Qwen3-0.6B Algebra
setting.

The contribution is a controlled boundary result. In one fixed 50-question,
eight-sample curriculum, the supplied GRPO-style control produced zero fresh policy-gradient groups on
30/50 updates and reached 235/500 on MATH-500. Three interventions that target
different causes of this degeneracy did not improve the fixed-budget MATH-500
or Algebra readouts in these runs: a running
outcome baseline on degenerate groups, a question-screening curriculum that
spent extra rollouts to find mixed groups, and a four-low/four-high-temperature
sampler. End-aligned verified-token consensus and positive replay changed
length or subject allocation without a reliable accuracy gain. Positive-only
verified credit also failed. The held-out Algebra slice makes the result less
dependent on MATH-500 heterogeneity: the supplied control scored 79/100, versus
71/100 for screening, 77/100 for temperature stratification, and 76/100 for
positive-only credit.

The evidence supports a narrower conclusion: terminal reward contrast is a
real optimization bottleneck, but contrast generated by changing baselines,
question selection, temperature, or update sign does not automatically transfer
to mathematical capability. The experiments expose a measurable distinction
between reward contrast, verifier yield, output length, and generalization.

## Related work and distinction

GRPO introduced a critic-free, group-relative policy objective in which sampled
answers are compared within each question [1]. DeepSeek-R1 demonstrates the
potential of large-scale RLVR, but its models, data mixture and compute budget
are far removed from this 0.6B controlled study [2]. Dr. GRPO analyzes response
length and group-normalization biases [3], while DAPO combines several scaling
changes, including dynamic sampling that filters all-correct and all-incorrect
groups until a mixed batch is available [4]. Our screening and temperature arms
are deliberately small, cost-accounted probes of that contrast idea; they are
not a claim that DAPO's large-scale system fails.

Verified self-training methods such as STaR [5] and ReST$^{\mathrm{EM}}$ [6]
iterate generation, outcome filtering and supervised fitting. The exploratory
self-distillation arm here uses the same model's successful traces only once,
continues from the warm checkpoint, and is therefore neither a reproduction of
those methods nor evidence against iterated self-training in general.

The closest published r/math_rlvr studies provide complementary controls.
Paper 4 reports continuation nulls and instability after the supplied warm
checkpoint [7]; Paper 10 separates fitting trained questions from unresolved
greedy transfer [8]; and Paper 1 finds that online verified replay is
seed-unstable [9]. Papers 11 and 13 respectively test a reselected second round
and item-level changes from GRPO versus expert iteration [10,11]. This paper
asks a narrower question: in the required first 50 Algebra updates, does
manufacturing more within-question reward contrast improve capability once
successful rollout yield, curriculum coverage, and screening cost are charged?
The model, grader, question order, optimizer, token caps and evaluation pipeline
are held fixed across the primary interventions, with a frozen Algebra holdout
and paired MATH-500 comparisons.

Recent pass@$k$ analyses report that RLVR can raise pass@1 while narrowing
large-$k$ coverage [12], and spurious-reward controls show that clipped policy
objectives can amplify pre-existing behavior even with random rewards [13]. The
present implementation has no PPO clipping or KL term, so those mechanisms are
useful boundary conditions rather than direct explanations of these runs.

## Methods

### Baseline and evaluation

The model is the supplied Qwen3-0.6B-Base checkpoint. Each update presents the
next Algebra question in `math_train.json`, samples eight responses at
temperature $0.8$ and top-$p=0.9$, and permits 512 completion tokens. A response
gets reward one exactly when the supplied boxed-answer extractor and symbolic
grader accept it. Group advantages are

$$
A_i = \frac{r_i-\bar r}{\operatorname{std}(r)+10^{-4}}.
$$

An all-equal group therefore has zero centered policy-gradient coefficient. The
optimizer step is still executed, so AdamW state and weight decay can change the
parameters even when the fresh reward term is zero.

The full model is optimized with BF16 AdamW at learning rate $10^{-5}$, weight
decay $0.01$, gradient clipping at one, and one optimizer step per question.
There is no KL penalty or learned critic. The primary evaluation is greedy
single-answer MATH-500 with a 2,048-token cap. The frozen secondary split is
source positions 100--199 of `math_train.json`, all Algebra and disjoint from
the first 100 training questions; it uses the same greedy decoder and cap.

### Interventions

The required ordinary seed-137 run is the control. The running-baseline arm
assigns a running outcome baseline to otherwise degenerate groups. End-aligned
positive consensus reweights tokens of verified responses according to
completion-relative agreement. Positive replay assigns coefficient $0.25$ to
fresh all-correct groups (the successful traces are reweighted in the same
update; no replay buffer is used). Informative screening scans a pool of 100 questions, up to
three groups per update, until a mixed group is found. Temperature
stratification samples four responses at $T=0.6$ and four at $T=1.2$ on each
fixed question. Positive-only credit assigns coefficient one to verified
responses and zero to failures on mixed groups, coefficient $0.25$ to
all-correct groups, and zero to all-zero groups.

All interventions use seed 137 unless explicitly stated. A matched ordinary
seed-271 and positive-replay seed-271 pair was run as a replication check.

## Results and supporting evidence

### Capability and cost

| arm | MATH-500 | mean evaluation tokens | Algebra-100 | validation tokens |
|---|---:|---:|---:|---:|
| base | 74/500 (14.8%) recorded | 92.2 recorded | 27/100 | 3,889 |
| ordinary, seed 137, 50 updates | **235/500 (47.0%)** | 668.2 | **79/100** | 49,265 |
| running outcome baseline | 214/500 (42.8%) | 687.9 | — | — |
| end-aligned consensus | 235/500 (47.0%) | 652.0 | — | — |
| positive replay, seed 137 | 236/500 (47.2%) | 645.5 | 75/100 | 44,812 |
| positive replay, seed 271 | 230/500 (46.0%) | 587.7 | — | — |
| ordinary, seed 271 | 227/500 (45.4%) | 595.0 | — | — |
| informative screening | 227/500 (45.4%) | 577.8 | 71/100 | 45,339 |
| ordinary, 100 updates | 235/500 (47.0%) | 556.9 | 76/100 | 41,664 |
| temperature stratified | 216/500 (43.2%) | 622.7 | 77/100 | 41,489 |
| positive-only credit | 228/500 (45.6%) | 722.4 | 76/100 | 47,911 |
| same-question resampling | 230/500 (46.0%) | 582.8 | 78/100 | 41,074 |
| two-stage self-distillation | 238/500 (47.6%) | 674.9 | 74/100 | 49,278 |

The Algebra validation split is a useful sanity check: the trained ordinary
checkpoint rises from the base's 27/100 to 79/100, while each contrast
intervention is at or below the ordinary control. Ordinary versus informative
has 11 control-only and 3 method-only questions (paired delta $-8$ points for
the method; exact McNemar $p=0.057$). Ordinary versus positive-only has 55
control-only and 48 method-only MATH questions (delta $-1.4$ points; bootstrap
95% interval $[-5.4,+2.6]$ points).
The exploratory two-stage self-distillation probe adds 216 exact-success
trajectories as a second training stage. Its MATH delta is $+3$ paired answers
(bootstrap $[-2.8,+4.0]$ points), while its Algebra delta is $-5$ points
(bootstrap $[-11,+1]$), so it does not satisfy the transfer criterion.

### Contrast and verifier yield

The ordinary seed-137 audit found 30/50 all-zero or all-one groups and only
20/50 mixed groups. The running baseline produced 19 degenerate groups and 31
mixed groups, but had lower training reward and lower MATH accuracy. Screening found 46/50 mixed
selected groups, but required 87 screened questions and 249,197 rollout tokens
for 50 updates, versus 143,060 tokens for ordinary training. Temperature
stratification found 32/50 mixed groups and only 18/50 degenerate groups, but
training reward fell to 141/400 (72 low-temperature and 69 high-temperature
successes), versus 216/400 for ordinary. Positive-only credit kept reward at
217/400 and 29/50 degenerate groups, yet still did not transfer. Same-question
resampling kept the first-50 order, raised mixed selected groups to 26/50, and
recovered 230/500 MATH, but remained below ordinary GRPO while spending 162,789
screened tokens.

The basic probability explains why contrast and yield can diverge. If a question
has independent per-sample success probability $p$, an eight-response group is
degenerate with probability $p^8+(1-p)^8$ and mixed with probability
$1-p^8-(1-p)^8$. Screening preferentially trains questions whose current $p$
lies away from zero and one; it does not create a correct trajectory when $p$
is near zero. The empirical arms behave consistently with this distinction:
temperature changes and retries increase mixedness only by accepting a lower
success stream or by paying extra tokens.

The observed degeneracy also diagnoses strong question-level heterogeneity. The
ordinary run has pooled rollout success rate $216/400=0.54$. If all responses
shared that single independent success probability, the formula above predicts
only $0.9\%$ degenerate groups, compared with the observed $60\%$. The gap is
consistent with a mixture of questions whose success probabilities are near
zero or one, so a global baseline cannot substitute for question-specific
exploration. The variance of group success counts is $11.38$, versus the
binomial variance $8p(1-p)=1.99$ at the pooled rate, an overdispersion ratio of
5.7. Under an exchangeable beta-binomial approximation this corresponds to an
intra-question correlation of about $0.68$; this is descriptive rather than a
fit of a latent-skill model.

Across the two seed-271/137 positive-replay pairs, the arm adds four answers
over 1,000 MATH questions and reduces mean output by 15.1 tokens per item
(2.38%). The item-paired interval is compatible with zero, so this is an
efficiency observation rather than a capability claim; two seeds are not a
precise estimate of training-seed uncertainty.

## Limitations and scope

The study uses one 0.6B model, one supplied Algebra prefix, one primary
benchmark, and mostly one seed. The held-out split is a nearby Algebra slice,
not a new benchmark. The interventions are deliberately minimal and do not
exhaust exploration, credit assignment, or verifier design. Exact grader
behavior and generation truncation matter. Same-question resampling used a
three-attempt retry budget and is not an equal-token comparison. The results
rule out the tested mechanisms at this budget; they do not prove that reward
contrast is useless or that another model, curriculum, verifier, or longer run
cannot benefit.

## Reproducibility

The workspace contains the unmodified baseline code and symlinked supplied data,
all checkpoints and JSONL rollouts, intervention scripts, evaluation outputs,
paired statistics, and `eval_algebra_holdout.py`. Run commands use the pinned
environment at `/mnt/stephen/research_data/math_rlvr/.venv/bin/python` through
`./gpu-run`. Checkpoints are retained locally; a publication supplement will
contain small scripts, configurations, hashes, and expected summary tables, not
the 1.5 GB model or large rollout files. The bundled vendor implementation
retains its Apache-2.0 notice; input provenance and data licensing are recorded
in `code/data/SOURCES.md` and the supplied manifest. The supplement is
checkpoint-free and includes compact evaluator/training records, scripts,
configuration hashes and expected summary tables; its final sizes and hash are
recorded in `SUPPLEMENT_SHA256.txt`. It contains no private credentials or
weights.

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