# A complete root lift for the order-three Gibbs-P6 section

## Problem and contribution

A rational Diophantine septuple would require seven distinct nonzero rationals with all 21 values (1+a_i a_j) squares. This paper studies a particularly structured route: the order-three elliptic construction of Dujella, Kazalicki, Mikić and Szikszai (DKMS) [1], intersected with Gibbs's regular-sextuple equation [2]. The contribution is an exact conditional construction theorem.

For a full rational order-three seed triple, the Gibbs equation has one nonzero orbit component. We give its orbit cubic explicitly and prove that a rational splitting of this cubic, together with explicit nonzero and collision exclusions, automatically supplies all twelve missing square roots of the resulting sextuple. Thus nine cross-edge conditions and three orbit-mutual conditions do not form additional arithmetic covers. We then express the remaining cubic splitting as a cube condition in a norm-one torus over $\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{-3})$, and give a complete rational coordinate model for the combined source.

No rational point on the complete source, and therefore no new sextuple or septuple, is obtained. We also prove that a Möbius ruling coordinate can only lie on a projective or pole boundary. The finite pilot in this paper is evidence about one bounded set of coordinates only.

## Related work and distinction

DKMS [1] construct infinitely many rational sextuples from an order-three point on the elliptic curve induced by a rational triple. Their construction carries a descent condition, but does not impose Gibbs's $P_6=0$ identity. Gibbs [2] gives the symmetric polynomial characterizing regular rational sextuples and records individual examples; the present calculation isolates its nonzero order-three orbit component. Dujella and Soydan [3] study order-three points on elliptic curves induced by rational quadruples; that quartic construction is different from the triple flex used here. The rStation trichotomy paper [4] identifies order-three configurations as one structural case for septuple research, but does not give this Gibbs intersection or its complete root lift. The genus-one rigidity result [6] explains why order-three families exhaust the genus-one sextuple route, while the translation result [7] bounds coset-identical extensions over fields without $\sqrt{-1}$; neither supplies the present Gibbs root-lift criterion or the Chebyshev source. The recent two-parameter sextuple source [5] also retains separate seventh-entry square conditions and is not a $P_6$ family.

The result is therefore a reusable construction criterion and descent model, rather than a claim that the order-three case is the whole septuple problem.

## The order-three flex and the unique nonzero component

Let

$$
E:\quad y^2=f(x)=(x-1)^3+(mx+k)^2,\qquad s=m+k,\qquad q^2=k^2-1.
$$

For a full seed triple $(a,b,c)$, write $q=abc$. The three scaled orbit entries $x_i=q d_i$ of the DKMS order-three orbit have polynomial

$$
g_V(x)=x^3-(V+2)x^2+(2V+1+4ms)x-(V-4ks).
$$

For six variables, write $\sigma_j$ for the elementary symmetric functions. Gibbs's regular-sextuple equation is identically

$$
P_6=(\sigma_5-\sigma_1)^2-4(\sigma_6+1)(\sigma_6+\sigma_4+\sigma_2+1).
$$

Substitution of the three seed entries and the three orbit entries gives the exact factorization

$$
q^{12}P_6=q^6s^3(4ks-V)
\bigl((3k-m)V+4km^2-12k-8m\bigr).
$$

The component $V=4ks$ contains an orbit zero. The only nonzero candidate is consequently

$$
V_0=\frac{4(3k+2m-km^2)}{3k-m}.
$$

If $3k=m$, the remaining factor specializes to $36kq^2$, so this chart has no omitted nonzero component. The factorization and reconstruction are verified by the supplied exact script.

## Automatic lift of all fifteen roots

Put $w=3k-m$ and $D=27s-4m^3$. The discriminant of the candidate orbit cubic is

$$
\operatorname{disc}(g_{V_0})=-\frac{16q^2s^3D^2}{w^3}.
$$

For a rational split cubic, its Vandermonde gives a rational $\delta$ with

$$
\delta^2=-\frac{s}{w}.
$$

The degree-three quotient map is

$$
V(x)=x+\frac{4ms}{x-1}+\frac{4s^2}{(x-1)^2}.
$$

Its target equation is

$$
Y^2=(V-1)^3+m^2(V-1)^2-18ms(V-1)-16m^3s-27s^2,
$$

and $V'(x)^2f(x)$ equals this target polynomial after substituting $V=V(x)$. At $V_0$, the ordinate $Y=qD\delta/w$ is rational. Each root $x_i$ therefore lifts to a rational point $R_i=(x_i,Y/V'(x_i))$, and the three points are one $S$-orbit, where $S=(1,s)$.

It remains to prove that the points give individual edge roots, rather than only products of roots. For a signed seed root $e_i=-q/a_i=1-r_i^2$, one has $m e_i+k=r_i^3$. Direct factorization gives

$$
\prod_{j=0}^2(1+a_i d_j)
=\left(\frac{\delta r_i(2m+3r_i)}{r_i^2-1}\right)^2.
$$

Let $L_j$ be the line through $R_j$ and $S$, with indices modulo three. The chord equation is

$$
f(X)-L_j(X)^2=(X-1)(X-x_j)(X-x_{j+1}).
$$
At $X=e_i$, this supplies a rational square root of the product of two adjacent row edges. Dividing the displayed row-product root by the opposite adjacent-pair root supplies each individual cross-edge root. At $X=0$, the same identity gives

$$
\sqrt{1+d_jd_{j+1}}=\frac{L_j(0)}q.
$$

Thus a split $g_{V_0}$ gives all 15 roots. The construction explicitly excludes $3k+2m=0$, the chart pole $w=0$, seed and orbit zeros, and all old/new collisions $g_{V_0}(qa_i)=0$. The companion checker independently verifies the identities and denominator conditions.

This is a conditional theorem: it does not assert that (g_{V_0}) splits for any rational seed.

## The remaining split condition as a 3-isogeny cube

Center the quotient coordinate at $z=V-1+4m^2/3$. The target curve becomes

$$
E':\quad Y^2=z^3-3\left(mz+\frac D9\right)^2.
$$

With $\eta^2=-3$, define

$$
\alpha(z,Y)=Y-\eta\left(mz+\frac D9\right).
$$

The exact isogeny identity is

$$
\alpha(\phi(x,y))=
\left(\frac{y-\eta(m(x-1)/3+s)}{x-1}\right)^3.
$$

At $V_0$, $z_0=D/(3w)$. On the rooted seed-and-discriminant cover, $D/w$ is a rational square $w_1^2$, and the target point lifts if and only if

$$
\beta=\frac{3k+2m+3\eta q\delta}{w_1}
$$

is a cube in the norm-one torus of $\mathbb{Q}(\eta)$. Writing a cube root as $\gamma=a+b\eta$, this is equivalent to

$$
a^2+3b^2=1,qquad
4a^3-3a=\frac{3k+2m}{w_1},qquad
b(4a^2-1)=\frac{3q\delta}{w_1}.
$$

The three inverse points are explicit; multiplying $\gamma$ by the three cube roots of unity gives the orbit. The criterion was checked symbolically and on three irreducible negative controls; an independent positive isogeny inverse check also passes.

## A complete rational coordinate model and finite pilot

The original seed splitting and the cube condition can be combined. Define

$$
R(T)=\frac{T(T^2-9)}{T^2-1}.
$$

The complete source is the rational equation

$$
R(p)R(v)=R(u)^2.
$$

The inverse coordinates are

$$
x=\frac{p+v}{v-p},\quad H=\frac{pv+3}{v-p},\quad U=\frac{pv-3}{v-p},
$$

and $a=(u^2-3)/(u^2+3)$, $b=2u/(u^2+3)$. The source parameters $(m,k,q,\delta)$, the seed roots, and the orbit entries are rational functions of these variables. The geometry checker reconstructs all six entries and independently verifies all fifteen roots, $P_6=0$, and the six possible mate gates.

A single predeclared height-256 experiment tested 79,786 reduced rational $(p,v,u)$-coordinates through exact square-class matching. It found 70 non-diagonal pairs with square $R$-product, but no rational third $R$-value and therefore no complete source point. This is not a nonexistence result; no larger bound is claimed.

## No degree-one Möbius section

The odd divisor of $R(p)$ is supported on

$$
B=\{\infty,-3,-1,0,1,3\}.
$$

Suppose $v=M(p)$ is Möbius and $u$ is any rational function satisfying the source equation. Since $R(u)^2$ has even divisor, the odd divisor of $R(M(p))R(p)$ forces $M$ to stabilize $B$. Enumerating the exact 12-element stabilizer and factoring the product leaves only

$$
M(p)=p,\qquad M(p)=\frac{p-3}{p+1},\qquad
M(p)=-\frac{p+3}{p-1}
$$

with square product in $\mathbb{Q}(p)$; the other nine maps have constant squareclasses $-1$, $27$, or $-27$. If $u=N(p)$ is also Möbius, testing all $N$ gives 18 identities, all with $N$ a signed deck map. The three surviving $M$ choices give respectively the projective ruling and the source poles $H=-1$ and $H=1$. Hence no degree-one Möbius pair reaches the nonboundary complete source. This exact divisor calculation leaves higher-degree sections and isolated rational points open.

## The selected degree-twelve section has no rational function section

For the natural point $P=(0,q)$, the equation $V(3P)=V_0$ has degree-five and degree-twelve components. The degree-five component maps to the rank-zero elliptic curve recorded in the supplement. On the degree-twelve component, substitute

$$
T=m/k=\frac{3d^2+1}{d^2-1},\qquad K=k^2.
$$

The resulting equation factors into conjugate cubics $F_-(d,K)$ and $F_+(d,K)=F_-(-d,K)$, each irreducible over $\mathbb{Q}(d)$. Imposing the necessary source relation $q^2=K-1$ gives an irreducible degree-six polynomial in $q$ over $\mathbb{Q}(d)$. Thus this selected degree-twelve component has no rational $K(d)$ or $q(d)$ section. Exact evaluations at $d=0,\pm1,\pm1/3,-3$ and at infinity leave only poles, $q=0$, or nonsquare boundary values. This is a section obstruction; isolated nonboundary rational points on the component remain unresolved.

## Seventh-entry gate and limitations

Even a full $P_6$ sextuple does not automatically give a seventh entry. For a full quintuple with Gibbs polynomial $P_6(x)=Ax^2+Bx+C$, the second finite mate of a known sixth $f$ is $g=C/(Af)$. All five base edges to $g$ are squares exactly when $A$ is a square, and the edge $1+fg$ is also square exactly when $A+C$ is a square. These two gates and nonzero/distinctness conditions remain after the order-three construction. No rational complete-source point was found on which to test them.

The finite pilot does not classify rational points on the source, and the rank-zero [3]P degree-five subsection does not exclude the unresolved degree-twelve component or the full surface. The construction also does not address order-four or irregular cases in the general septuple problem.

## Reproducibility

The supplement contains exact Python/SymPy/FLINT/standard-library scripts and JSON certificates. The main checks are:

```text
.venv/bin/python research/main/order3_gibbs_regular.py
PYTHONPATH=.vendor/as18_ratio_flint .venv/bin/python research/exact_search/order3_p6_group.py
PYTHONPATH=.vendor/as18_ratio_flint .venv/bin/python research/exact_search/order3_p6_group_3p.py
PYTHONPATH=.vendor/as18_ratio_flint .venv/bin/python research/geometry/order3_p6_chebyshev.py --checks-only
PYTHONPATH=.vendor/as18_ratio_flint .venv/bin/python research/main/order3_p6_complete_pilot.py
```

The last command is the only finite parameter experiment in this paper; its bound is fixed in the script. The exact root constructor rejects all chart poles and collisions before reporting a tuple.

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